A variety of compromises were offered to simply delay certain portions and make it less painful on the population. The answer from the senate and the administration was to play hardball, no negotiation whatsoever, which led to the shutdown.
So where are we now? 5,000,000 people that have become “magically” uninsured with no chance of regaining insurance in the near future.
Now, the “we will not negotiate” bomb-throwers in the senate that used vile hate mongering to defend a political position are now saying the exact same things that was being said by those trying to avoid the disaster in the first place.
Can you say … Duh! The Affordable Care act (ObamaCare), Obama’s only real achievement since becoming president in 2008, is in real serious trouble. A new AP poll finds that only 1/3 of Americans support his takeover of our nation’s healthcare system.
Many small businesses have already had to start cutting employee hours or even have been forced to have layoffs to avoid the business-killing regulations imposed by ObamaCare. This has not helped an already terrible economy. To make matters worse, the recovery has also been further stalled by uncertainty as Obama’s massive tax hikes (you know, the ones Nancy Pelosi had to “pass” the bill to see were hidden in it) have slowly come into the light. But then, Pelosi can just exempt herself from ObamaCare … can’t she. Handy … isn’t it!
Small businesses aren’t the only ones trying to mitigate Obama’s jobs-killing rules, either. Even unions have begun to understand how bad ObamaCare will be and have started making noises … and asking if it should be repealed.
Remember Obama’s claim that his new law would lower medical costs for all? Now, even the government is admitting that costs will actually go up as a result of ObamaCare. In fact, insurance rates and healthcare costs are skyrocketing as the full effect of ObamaCare is beginning to be realized. Maybe somebody should have read it before Congress rammed it on through! Ironically, Sen. Democrat leader Harry Reid just recently asked for even more money for ObamaCare.
Some elected Democrats are running scared over their support of ObamaCare, worried that it will cost them their seats. And it should! Republican or Democrat, we pay our representatives a six-figure salary to do their jobs … which should, I would think, include reading and understanding the legislation they are voting to pass.
ObamaCare is making healthcare costs go up, is already making healthcare harder to get, is already driving doctors out of the field, is driving up the costs of business, depressing wages, and is hurting our already delicate economy. We have Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their group of radical, non-reading left-wing thugs to thank for that! Remember that in 2016!
Parts of this post may be offensive to some people. If the coarse language in the included quotes that were spewed forth by liberals bothers you, please don’t read this post. I apologize for the quotes, but the point needs to be made!
When SCOTUS upheld ObamaCare’s individual mandate, Sarah Palin tweeted this message to her followers:
So, this is Sarah Palin’s opinion, stated with absolutely no foul language or personal attacks (and I would say … based soundly on the available facts). The liberal response is something else entirely! Again, do not read this if you are easily offended by the liberal version of 1st Amendment free speech
@RFLAWLESS: White Bitch, With your slut daughter and retard child
@Dike_Turner: And your retard baby cries?
@insanityreport: Levi Johnston got in your daughter’s thighs
@O_Sh1tT: shut up bitch before we run a train on your slut ass daughter.
@whtwoudjesusdo Go suck a %#*! with your daughter bitch (edited for descency)
The last one by @whtwoudjesusdoabout say’s it all … doesn’t it! I feel I can safely say Jesus would do, or even say, nothing of the sort! Just so you know … if you have a Twitter account, you can reply back to these wonderful liberals and let them know how much you admire their oh-so-enlightened verbal gems!
Ok! What if Justice Robert’s and the SCOTUS ruled the individual mandate penalty is a tax? Well, Congress does have the ability to create taxes … and Congress also has the ability to rescind them. Roberts gave us the means to end ObamaCare. Upon Congress’ return from its July recess, they should act immediately to repeal this terrible new tax on the American people, and in fact, they should repeal Obamacare in its entirety. But they won’t … unless thinking American citizens (you know … Americans who can actually think beyond launching vile attacks on Sarah Palin’s children) stand up and force them to!!
This is the most brazen, underhanded, sweeping new tax (and abusive government overreach) imposed on the American people in the history of this country!
The American People did not ask for this tax! We do not want this tax! We certainly can’t afford this tax! ObamaCare is not the answer to America’s health care issues.
Is Sarah Palin wrong? Did Obama Lie? More and more about what was actually written into the ObamaCare bill that Robert Creamer and SEIU wrote, and nobody in Congress had time to read before they passed it to find out what was in it … is slowly coming to light! You tell me:
Lie #1: Obama said, “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.”
Reality: The individual mandate is far from being alone on Heritage’s lengthy list of Obamacare’s new taxes and penalties, many of which will heavily impact the middle class. Altogether, Obamacare’s taxes and penalties will accumulate an additional $500 billion in new revenue over a 10-year period. Yesterday, a senior economist for The Wall Street Journal revealed that 75 percent of Obamacare’s new taxes will be paid for by American families making under $120,000 a year. Among the taxes that will hit the middle class are the individual mandate, a 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices, a 10 percent excise tax on indoor tanning, and an increase of the floor on medical deductions from 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income to 10 percent.
Lie #2:Obama said, “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.”
Reality: Research continues to show that as many as 30 percent of employers will dump their employees from their existing health care coverage. The Administration itself has admitted that “as a practical matter, a majority of group health plans will lose their grandfather status by 2013.”
Lie #3: Obama said, “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits—either now or in the future.”
Reality: As Heritage analysts explain, “A close examination of what [the Congressional Budget Office] said, as well as other evidence, makes it clear that the deficit reduction associated with [Obamacare] is based on budget gimmicks, sleight of hand, accounting tricks, and completely implausible assumptions. A more honest accounting reveals the new law as a trillion-dollar budget buster.”
Lie #4: Obama said “I will protect Medicare.”
Reality: A Heritage Factsheetshows the various ways Obamacare ends Medicare as we know it, including severe physician reimbursement cuts that threaten seniors’ access to care and putting an unelected board of bureaucrats in charge of meeting Medicare’s new spending cap.
Lie #5: Obama said, “I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”
Reality: Obamacare does not accomplish universal coverage; it leaves 26 million Americans without insurance. Moreover, Heritage research outlines 12 ways that Obamacare will increase premiums instead of reducing health care costs. Requirements that plans allow young adults to stay on their parents’ coverage and offer preventive services with no cost sharing are already leading to higher growth in premiums.
Polls show 70 percent of Americans hold an unfavorable view of the individual mandate. It’s doubtful that Justice Robert’s calling it a “tax” will dramatically change their opinion. Now that Obamacare and its endless lies with sky-rocketing costs will remain the law of the land, it’s up to the American people (as it should be) to see to it that the law is ultimately repealed by Congress. Then, maybe we can move forward with real health care reform that actually puts patients’ health care needs (instead of the government’s need for more power) first.
So, aside from adding a new 3,8% sales tax when I sell my house (this is on top of the sales tax I paid when I bought my house), I wonder what else is in store for me that is deeply buried in the new HEALTH CARE BILL:
For instance, why should I have to pay for things I don’t need … or will never use?
I will neither need a pap smear, nor give birth. I don’t want a hair transplant, and will never use the alcohol/drug rehab plan. I don’t need free condoms! And yet, I am forced to pay for this coverage under ObamaCare. THe truth is I rarely go to the doctor and really just want major medical coverage. So …. how exactly does this new bill lower my premiums?
Does this new HealthCare Bill do anything at all to lower the cost of malpractice insurance?
I know several doctors and malpractice insurance can cost in excess of $70,000. How do doctors pay for this insurance … by raising fees. On the other side of the coin, ambulance chasing lawyers like John Edwards have nothing to lose. Most cases simply get settled no matter how frivolous or ridiculous they are because doctors want to practice medicine and stay out of court. Lawyers, on the other hand, have nothing at risk but their time. They never have to pay court or legal fees. I think an easy fix would be that the loser pays all court costs and legal fees of both parties. That $70,000 malpractice insurance premium could then be drastically reduced, and the cost savings passed on to us. (I do not mean this to imply all lawyers are crooks … I also know some good lawyers with high ethical standards and real integrity!)
How exactly does ObamaCare lower my monthly health insurance premium ?
Please explain to me how ObamaCare can possible lower premiums when insurance companies are now required to cover more things for more people … while, at the same time, distributing free condoms, abortions, and “morning after” pills for all! And … don’t give me your abstract, emotionally based, feel-good liberal platitudes based on fantasy math! I want to see the real numbers!!!
If insurance companies are now required to cover all pre-existing conditions, what prevents people from canceling their coverage, paying the lower “fine/tax” as opposed to the sky-rocketing premiums caused by ObamaCare; and getting health insurance only when they need major medical care?
What will happen when insurance companies go out of business because they cannot compete with the government-owned health care monopoly? Will the government option (can you say “single-payer system“) be the only option? What then happens when our already nearly bankrupt government can no longer afford to sustain this system … hmmm sounds like what is now happening in France, Canada, the U.K., Greece, Spain, etc? Ring a bell?
When the government has total control of how much a doctor (or a hospital) can charge for a procedure, what will that do to the number of people willing to enter the medical field as a profession. Doctors average about $146,000 per year. Hmmm! Sounds like a lot to me … at least on the surface! But, then they also incur a great bit of debt completing medical school; the average debt being about $150,000. Our enlightened government is doubling the interest on student loans next month (another indirect tax perhaps?). How do doctors pay back these loans making less and less for each procedure as dictated by Obama bureaucrats? God Forbid, but what if Doctors are forced to join a government union like the SEIU? So, putting all this together …. and then adding 30 million more people to the health care system, thereby vastly increasing demand; how does the supply side look to you? Oh wait … I have the solution! Free medical school for everyone. Yep! It’s the second line … just past the condom line!
Can someone please explain to me (again … not by using emotionally based, liberal, feel-good platitudes or fantasy math; I want the real numbers) how, when supply gets overwhelmed by demand, rationing can be avoided?
What will happen to our now “single-payer” health care system coverage when the government, after going really, really, really, really broke; decides it needs to “contain” costs by instituting extreme austerity measures? Will we have riots in the street like they had in Greece or France, as our entitlement-minded subjects (sorry, they gave up their right to be called “citizens”) vent their righteous anger at having to actually reap what they sowed?
What new “life-style laws” will soon be passed in the name of “protecting us” from ourselves? Will we be allowed to buy two Hershey Bars per month? Will the school cafeteria police raid our homes because our child had a turkey sandwich with mayonnaise on whole wheat bread (instead of the government mandated fish sticks with 2.5 celery sticks)? Will hamburgers be mandated to be no larger than 2 .5 ounces of beef? Will we be forced to eat our daily government required ration of 12 ounces of bean curd? Will we be fined if we don’t utilize our weekly ration of free condoms?
Pssst!! Hey buddy … yeah …. you. Wanna know a secret? That’s right … another of Obama‘s “secret …. ssshhhhhh …. taxes!” No wonder Pelosi did not want anyone to read the ObamaCare bill before they passed it “to find out what is in it.” Did you know that it includes a new property tax? That’s right folks!! If ObamaCare is not repealed, and you sell your house after 2012; you will pay a wonderful new 3.8% sales tax on it? That’s $3,800 on a $100,000 home.
Wait just a minute? The hell you say? When and how did this happen?
I do find one bit of “poetic justice”, if you will, in this new secret Obama tax! Yes … you Occupy Wall Street folks … you 99% -ers; this is a new tax on you!! Yep! That’s right … this tax is not just on the 1% club …. you, know those dastardly millionaires and billionaires who own businesses, create real private sector jobs, hire people like you and me, buy the stuff we make, and otherwise stimulate the economy! This tax is on you as well! Obama is even screwing you … his loyal cool aid drinkers! This is a tax on Joe the Plumber, Bob the Builder, Terry the high school teacher, Tommy the cab driver, Harry the hamburger flipper, and Buffy the Obama-zombie.
So, you weren’t aware this new property tax was hidden in the Obamacare bill … were you? Well, don’t feel like the lone ranger, because … you aren’t alone. There are many members of Congress that also weren’t aware of it (Remember, they did not have time to read it). And … it was carefully concealed in a HEALTH CARE BILL; written by SEIU and ACORN, and then shoved down America’s throat by Pelosi, Reid and Company … despite the reasoned objections of most thinking Americans.
For some reason, it doesn’t goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013 … you might ask? Could it be that … it is because it wasn’t supposed to become public knowledge until AFTER the 2012 elections … when it would be too late … especially if Obama somehow gets re-elected!? So, tell me, is this the “change you can believe in?”
Under the new HEALTH CARE BILL all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% Sales Tax. If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. Simply put, this bill is designed to screw the retiring generation who often downsize their homes on retiring. Thanks very much AARP!
So, I have to ask you … does this make your November 8, 2012 vote any more important to you now that we’re finally finding out what’s really in Obamacare.
And don’t forget you pay that 3.8% even if you have no gain on the sale of your house.
And if you do happen to have a gain … your capital gains tax is going up from 15% to 20% PLUS the 3.8% tax. Wow! It just keeps getting better!
So, we are finding all these new secret, indirect, and otherwise hidden “Revenue Enhancements,” and still Obama wants to raise taxes to fund more “shovel ready jobs” for his campaign bundler buddies, ohhh … and his family’s vacations and new ergonomic grips for his golf clubs!!
As usual, your comment plays on the emotions and fears of the uninformed, but has little in the way of fact and reality. You paint the picture of “Ron Paul conservatives” cruelly turning people away from urgently needed medical care. Oh …. those cold-hearted conservative bastards! They make Scrooge look like Mother Teresa! Did you know conservatives eat their young! Barak Obama, the Messiah … the Holy One … will save us all from the evil, fascist, chauvinistic, racist, hate-mongering conservatives!
Don’t like spending nearly a trillion bucks on stimulus? You’re a racist! Don’t like ObamaCare? You’re a racist!
Why is it when liberals rant … it is “free speech,” but when conservatives rant, it is “hate speech?” Need some examples? Maybe I can find a few …. it isn’t very hard …
Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg News comparing the Tea Party caucus in Congress to terrorists: “I mean, they’ve strapped explosives to the Capitol and they think they are immune from it.”
Former Rep. Paul Kanjorski (Dem): “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to put him against a wall and shoot him.”
Barack Obama, 2008 and 2010: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” & “We’re going to punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends…”
New York Times Columnist Paul Krugman: “A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy.”
Talk show host Montel Williams, directed at Rep. Michele Bachmann: “Michele, slit your wrist. Go ahead… or, do us all a better thing [sic]… start at the collarbone.”
Senator Harry Reid, 2008: Barack Obama is a “light-skinned” African-American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.”
Reverend Jesse Jackson: “All Hymie wants to talk about is Israel; every time you go to Hymietown, that’s all they want to talk about.”
DNC Charmian Howard Dean: “You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room? Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”
The Washington Post’s Richard Cohen and CNN: “How much time do we have left to talk about how stupid Sarah Palin is?”
Foul-mouthed comedian Sandra Bernhard warning Sarah Palin she would be “gang-raped by my big black brothers” if she tried coming to New York.
Do you remember when Washington Post columnist Courtland Milloy said: “I know how the ‘tea party’ people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their ‘Obama Plan White Slavery’ signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads.”
Remember when Liberal talk radio host Mike Malloy said: “Drudge? Aw, Drudge, somebody ought to wrap a strong Republican entrail around his neck and hoist him up about 6 feet in the air and watch him bounce.”
And of course, we all know about Bill Maher ….
Remember when “stupid” Sarah Palin made Rahm Emanuel’s expletive-enhanced use of the word “retarded” an embarrassment for him and the the Anointed One? She forced the left to live up to its own P.C. standards. Saul Alinsky would have been proud.
But I digress ….
There will still be millions of un-insured under Obamacare. The cost for Obamacare has already been revised by the CBO from the original estimate of approx. $900 Billion to $1.8 Trillion … and it will continue to grow. The programs you mention; Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are, themselves, on the verge of collapse; therefore taxes will skyrocket to subsidise them and yet another massive, unsustainable entitlement bureaucratic-nightmare called Obamacare.
Doctors are fleeing the medical field or making decisions to not accept government-based healthcare plans because reimbursement levels are already too low and shrinking. (I know this because I have several friends who are doctors … and no they are not greedy monsters. They are normal folks, whose business costs are skyrocketing because of massive paperwork involved with regulatory compliance forced on them by Obamacare).
Enrollment in medical school is down because not too many students can afford to take on such massive debt in the form of the student loans required to complete a medical degree program … for the dwindling return on their investment. Doctor’s work very hard for their degrees (typically for at least 7 years) and incur a great deal of debt achieving it. To begrudge them a higher salary than folks who, say, decided to flip hamburgers for a living or just go on the public dole … is pretty short-sighted and very small-minded!
Tell me … do you begrudge George Soros, Warren Buffett, AL Gore, John Kerry, or George Clooney their massive incomes?
And yes … even those dastardly, despicable, racist, hate-mongering, tea bagging, slutty, conservatives (who hate autistic children, the mentally challenged, and who want old people to die starving in the streets) want American citizens to have access to affordable, transportable, quality health insurance. The problem is that Obamacare will not provide that. It will only bankrupt the country.
I am not a big fan of Ron Paul. I don’t believe Ron Paul is actually a true conservative. I like some of his domestic positions, but he is not truly a Constitutionalist. If you go back to Ron Paul’s early years and his influences, they include a list of folks who detested conservatives and the U.S. Constitution. Ron Paul mostly uses the U.S. Constitution as a hammer to bash all other candidates on the head. His foreign policy is to the left of even Barack Obama’s and I feel would be disastrous for this country and the rest of the world. Isolationist-based policies have indirectly caused several wars including World War I, World War II, and The Vietnam Conflict. His roots are, perhaps, slightly less scary than Barack Obama’s; while Obama is a Saul Alinsky “inspired” socialist, Ron Paul is essentially a Murry Rothbard inspired free-market anarchist.
All Americans … democratic and republican … liberal and conservative … want access to affordable, quality healthcare. The problem with Obamacare is that it cannot and will not give us that; and in truth … it was never designed to. Obamacare was never intended to reduce healthcare costs, and in act, it will increase healthcare cost substantially. Obamacare was designed to force all Americans to have government approved health insurance by 2014, or be fined by their government. Which, despite claims to the contrary by the Washington Post, amounts to a government take over of healthcare. That is why Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and company, rushed to have it passed before it was read and understood, and before anyone really knew what was hidden in it. Two years ago, the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) told America Obamacare would cost the U.S. taxpayers about $900 billion. It just recently revised that cost to be $1.8 trillion! Is anyone … besides the Cool Aid Drinkers … surprised by this?
It is incomprehensible to me how such an Obamanation of legislation could be passed without even trying a few simpler measure that have been discussed during previous years that could have helped lower healthcare costs in America … without created a huge new bumbling bureaucracy.
The liberal elites, such as Obama and his cronies, want to blame the private sector and capitalism for rising healthcare and premiums costs. They count on the fact that you will not do your homework and will simply accept their claim at face value. Why then, is it, that I can purchase auto insurance from an auto insurance company in Hawaii because they offer a better premium rate … but must by a health insurance policy from a company based in Tennessee? Why is the market closed off? Is this free market capitalism? No it is not! Then how can liberals truthfully blame free market capitalism? They cannot … unless you drank the Cool Aid!
The fact is that the federal government has no legal authority to regulate health insurance rates. Insurance, including health insurance, is regulated by the states. The McCarran-Ferguson Act, which preserves the principle of state regulation of insurance, was not amended by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the law under which the new rule on health insurance rates was issued. So what is going on here? With no regulatory authority at all, HHS is trying to bully or shame health insurers into reducing their rate increases. Again, the whole effort is an incredible exercise by Obama’s administration in power-grabbing!
The Heritage Founation lists 10 other negative outcomes from Obamacare:
New taxes, penalties, and fees will discourage businesses from growing, lowering economic growth by $706 billion and costing 800,000 jobs.
The Federal government will force the 18 million of the uninsured to go under Medicaid, while others must accept another government program. Despite this, millions will still remain uninsured.
Each year, $125 million will go towards subsidizing school-based health centers and programs to reduce teen pregnancy, with no requirement to reduce abortions. Parents won’t know what services their children will receive.
Half of those on Medicare Advantage will lose this coverage thank to rate increases.
Health care costs will rise thanks to $47 billion in new taxes on drug companies and medical device makers.
Nearly two-thirds of doctors are considering abandoning any kind of government-sponsored health care insurance, stating that regulations are too high and reimbursement too low.
By forcing States to accept federally-mandated health insurance, the Act violates States’ rights.
Small businesses, the drivers of new job growth, will be especially penalized by $52 billion in new taxes and new IRS reporting requirements.
Despite $500 billion in new taxes, Obamacare will increase the deficit by $500 billion over the next 10 years.
The simple reality is that Obamacare is a very poorly written law with vast consequences for all Americans. Obamacare’s so-called exchanges will ultimately increase insurance rates, tax American employers and threaten the viability of our private insurance market. Massive government subsidies will be required to keep ObamaCare afloat and that will require even more tax revenue. Obamacare will also simply create a massive new entitlement program that we, as a nation, cannot afford.
For me, as an American citizen, the Individual Mandate is the scariest part of the whole mess. If Obamacare stands, we as a nation have set the precedent for the government to force individuals into contracts with services providers for services they do not want. This does, in fact, violate the U.S. Constitution and is a big step down the pathway to tyranny. No we all know ho little the U.S. Constitution means to Obama, his cronies, and his Cool Aid drinking followers, but what about the rest of you Americans … are you going to just sit back and let him destroy this country and will you take a stand. This next election is critical. I now we all have our favorite candidate … but only one candidate can be the nominee! I lean to toward New Gingrich personally, but things are not looking to good for him right now. So will I go home and pout if Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, or Ron Paul get the nomination? Will I take my toys and go home? Nope … this election is way to important for such childish games. Any of the fielded republican candidates is a real measurable improvement over Barack Hussein Obama … and I will vote for any one of them to remove this domestic American enemy from office …. and in truth … I would not even have to hold my nose to do it!